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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 30, 2011 19:29:54 GMT
Come on, Peepsy! He really is our best bet.
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Post by Ellmeister (Dewgong) on Mar 30, 2011 19:31:33 GMT
He needs to do Heroes mafia first probably. Both these two mafias have been excellent I think.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 30, 2011 22:35:04 GMT
How much pressure should I put on it? I hate if I'm the only one pushing it. It would be nice if Dohnut could back me up a little in some of my points, but still showing doubt. That would confuse whatever suspicions they might have.
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Post by Jonnas (Cybernetic Mewtwo) on Mar 31, 2011 0:06:50 GMT
Once Dohnut arrives (probably tomorrow ), he should go and add to the discussion. But I think we pretty much got this. Just don't gloat yet. If Peeps gets so paranoid that he votes for mr-paul, and both of you are online, vote quickly. But sooner or later, one of them will vote for Tales. Dannyboy should keep pressure, not too much on the aggressive side, just "It's gotta be him, both times, he failed my detector" Of course, if your approach proves to not be working, Dohnut should just say "Fuck it, we got no one else" and vote for Tales, anyway. Maybe that will convince them to hammer the final nail. But for now, stick to the plan.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 31, 2011 1:12:48 GMT
Will do, general!
Besides, they're not actually able to vote any of us off, and it doesn't seem like they even suspect us enough to attempt it. If nothing else, the dayphase will end automatically, and then we have won. For now we simply need to bide our time.
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Post by ReZourceman (Dark Force) on Mar 31, 2011 6:07:55 GMT
I'm surprised no ones noticed that this is Jynx's first physical confrontation.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 31, 2011 7:26:32 GMT
...they just have. Bugger.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 31, 2011 7:37:25 GMT
Right so i don't really know what to say about their new accusations. Dannyboy should concentrate on saying that this doesn't 'prove' anything like tales claims, and that peeps has investigated him an proved him to be good.
At worst we can go for a no lynch today and ask tales to post something that literally say what I said 'I am town, I am good etc'. We can also ask peeps to target Dannyboy again but ultimately it won't matter because if we kill tomorrow night we win. A long as I keep vote blocking tales we should be fine.
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Post by Jonnas (Cybernetic Mewtwo) on Mar 31, 2011 8:22:37 GMT
Actually, there's a contradiction in their accusations. Tales says that chairdriver targeted Dannyboy. If Dannyboy was the mafia killer, he would have been roleblocked (Dohnut, feel free to point this out if you get there first) Ergo, Tales just lied about his night time results. Danny, you have to say Tales is lying because your power wasn't enhanced. And if you were the mafia killer, you would've been roleblocked away from the kill. "Tales was the killer! His contradicting arguments prove this!"
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 31, 2011 9:49:30 GMT
But there's one problem with that plan, Jonnas: I can't both claim that I'd have been roleblocked if I was mafia and then claim that Tales if lying about his result because I didn't get enhanced. Either chairdriver targetted me or he didn't. If he did, it proves I'm not mafia, but then I would have got enhanced, which I haven't mentioned anything about. If he didn't, I can claim that Tales is lying, but then I have no alibi regarding the murder.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 31, 2011 10:41:38 GMT
Yes you do. All you need to say is that you were in enhanced by chair so your power tonight is "blah". You can still claim you targeted tales and that he was lying as you said, and you can say that clearly your not mafia as otherwise you would have been role blocked. If you had been role blocked you couldn't have carried out the kill , which proves that you are good.
The options are (from a townie pov): Chair targeted you. You are evil and were role blocked. The kill was still carried out, therefore you can't be evil Chair targeted you. you are good and your power is enhanced. You targeted tales and found he was lying.
Ooooooor you could just claim that tales is lying. If he was the killer he wouldn't be able to track anyone, and you should suggest that it's awfully convenient that he's claiming a dead person targeted you as they aren't around to claim otherwise. you can say you don't think chair targeted you at all as you weren't boosted or role-blocked, and that he's lying to claim a target when actually he was the killer.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 31, 2011 10:44:16 GMT
Just re-read your post Danny, sorry. Your final concern is something you don't need to worry about. Nobody knows whether tales is lying about targeting chair as there are no other trackers. If you claim you think he's lying about targeting chair, you can also say you don't think he targeted you at all (and say you received no benefits) and that tales is making the story up to clear himself. In fact as long as the town think chair driver managed to target you before he was killed, tales' story makes no sense at all.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 31, 2011 10:53:56 GMT
Yeah, claiming that Tales is lying about it is probably best. Though I did like the prospect of having an investigation prove me innocent of a murder I so blatantly did commit. Anyway, I'll go claim he's lying.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 31, 2011 10:56:26 GMT
I fact tales has dug his own grave. He specifically says "Dannyboy was targeted by chair driver". Now, if this was true Dannyboy would have been role blocked and couldn't have carried out the kill. Either that or he is good. Therefore tales must be lying about chair targeting him, which means he probably didn't target Dannyboy at all (or so you can say Danny). In fact this was just a cover as he was the killer.
Sorry to write this three times, I'm not sure if I'm making it clear and keep thinking of new things to say. The fact that tales has said that chair driver targeted you suggests that chair managed to reach you
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 31, 2011 11:15:15 GMT
I think the problem is that it's a bit complicated to figure out what we can claim without contradicting and revealing ourselves. Anyway, I plan on saying that he's lying since my power wasn't enhanced (plus feigning utter ignorance about the write-up). I won't mention the mafia part since that leads back to me being the potential killer, something which I wish to keep attention away from. I'll simply press on with my suspicion of Tales and him as the potential killer.
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