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Post by Jonnas (Cybernetic Mewtwo) on Mar 29, 2011 22:22:32 GMT
If it's 2vs2, we win. No questions asked If it's 2vs3, and Dohnut voteblocks Tales, we don't win immediately, but it's as if we had already done it. But it's unimportant. What's important is getting Tales lynched. Try to find the page with his role PM, so you can analyse him.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 29, 2011 23:13:57 GMT
I was merely being curious about the hypothetical scenarios in mafia games in general. I'll ask in the general thread when this is over.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 29, 2011 23:25:15 GMT
Found Tales's role PM. Page 223 with 5 posts per page. The only other post is a statement that Eenuh's post is different from his, which is true.
However, note that we can't claim he left anything out, seeing as my power doesn't work that way, and the town knows it. We can only claim some of the things he has said are untrue.
HOWEVER!
On page 225 he has these two posts:
"My pm doesn't actually state that I'm town, but thinking about it I guess it's obvious in my case."
"Ah that. But I don't think anyone thought the clock was real time..."
Could we use those instead?
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 29, 2011 23:31:35 GMT
I think there's plenty of justification for vote blocking tales. I'd do it if I was actually a townie as I'm sick of him voting for me still, we're better playing it safe for now. Let's go with that plan then. As for whether chair will be able to block the kill... I'm assuming the system works by the order the PMs are sent. Every night people have been sending their PMs before we lock our targets in, so they fulfil their night actions before we kill them or whatever. If we lock this in now we should be ahead of everyone (including chairdriver) meaning they'll be killed before they do their actions. Unless, somehow, chair has already sent in his target somehow. Right so we should be okay lynching tales tomorrow, he didn't vote for Eenuh and tried to get rid of me etc. With Dannyboy's "investigation" It should be okay. But we have to make sure the kills work tonight. If we can get them both tonight and get tales tomorrow we should be good hopefully. Let's just wait and see. I don't think Rez will be quite so nice with the write-up tonight but if we have a little luck tomorrow, who knows. If we actually manage to win this I cannot explain how impressed I'd be. I'd also like to point out that if we do manage it, everyone else in the mafia should really get half a point and an honourable mention as they have all been extremely awesome, even after they died. Especially Jonnas! Anyway, let's not get ahead of ourselves
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 29, 2011 23:34:10 GMT
I thought we just had to use the standard 25 posts per page setup. That's what I use, and that's why I posted once on that page. Best check with Rez on that one though, don't want to go making a mistake like that at this point!
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Post by Jonnas (Cybernetic Mewtwo) on Mar 29, 2011 23:44:46 GMT
Dannyboy (Jynx): That sounds very ambivalent. Especially since he says "I think" both times. Maybe we should search for older posts? @dohnut: I do hope the write-up doesn't outright state everyone's actions except for your own...
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 29, 2011 23:50:40 GMT
Not everybody uses PM priority. It is more common to have a priority list that does not take actual time into account. It wouldn't be fair for those who get online late. And it is most common for kills to happen last, otherwise it can create paradoxes. That being said, I don't know how ReZ does it. Haven't you been following my previous analyses? I've switched between the number of posts per page, and I've never even used the standard 25 post per page layout. ReZ allows any number of posts per page. But anyway, we still need to figure out what to claim exactly. We need to figure it out properly so he can't explain it away and I won't be questioned too hard about the technical details.
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 29, 2011 23:53:58 GMT
Dannyboy (Jynx): That sounds very ambivalent. Especially since he says "I think" both times. Maybe we should search for older posts? @dohnut: I do hope the write-up doesn't outright state everyone's actions except for your own... Perhaps, but it can be very tiring and time-consuming, and I need to go to bed soon. In addition, I won't necessarily have that much time tomorrow until the afternoon. If ReZ does use PM priority, then at least send in the kill targets as soon as possible. Then I can figure this out later. The write-up often does ... What are you worried about in particular?
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Post by Jonnas (Cybernetic Mewtwo) on Mar 30, 2011 0:00:40 GMT
The write-up often does ... What are you worried about in particular? Inevitably, someone will point out that everyone did their actions except, apparently for Nintendohnut. I'm worried it's gonna happen, and they'll notice. Also, regarding Tales' older posts, I'll see what I can do during the afternoon. And Dohnut, you haven't voted for Eenuh yet, I think. Feeling brave enough to hammer the last nail?
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 30, 2011 0:04:15 GMT
Ah, yes, of course ...
Darn. Is there anything we can do about it?
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 30, 2011 0:04:46 GMT
Yeah I want to vote for her but don't know if it's a good idea at this point as it will make me look evil. Oh well, we should probably just go for it. I'll vote and say something like 'just because I want the day to end to see if we've won or not', how does that sound? This will be the post people will jump on tomorrow so it needs to sound innocent. If I were townie I would have already voted but I was thinking about the voting patterns.
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 30, 2011 0:07:40 GMT
The write up will be entirely dependant on Rez again. If he's feeling nice he'll make things at least escapable for us. Let's hope so or it's game over for us! Oh and rez I am going to reply to your Facebook message tomorrow I was going to do it today but had work, then practice for shorthand and I've been addicted to the mafia for the times ive been online
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Post by Dannyboy (Jynx) on Mar 30, 2011 0:09:22 GMT
Well, they were going to jump on your voting pattern no matter if you were actually mafia or not, so ...
Regarding the write-ups, we can only hope that the descriptions are vague enough so that the kill can be blamed on one of the others.
Anyway, I'm off to bed now. See you tomorrow!
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Post by ReZourceman (Dark Force) on Mar 30, 2011 7:54:37 GMT
Cybernetic Mewtwo's Doomsday Device - KILL Chairdriver Nintendohnut - KILL MadDog Dannyboy PSYCHIC SCAN Tales, Page225 @ 5 posts per page.
Is this correct?
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Post by Dohnut (Tentacruel) on Mar 30, 2011 7:55:35 GMT
I don't know about about Dannyboy's scan but the kills are correct yes. If Dannyboy had said that then yes, that is our final decision
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